Do nice guys finish last? Interesting question. In this world things arent always what they seem. What Jonathan has said is undoubtedly relevant and true. However, love is a very complex thing, and something very difficult to explain. No one knows for sure why people suddenly fall for one another, perhaps there are certain electrical signals within us that attract us to certain people and not to others. In any case, if we want to see a good view of human behaviour we need only look to the animal kingdom. When it comes to being nice and freindly, we may think that it is good and indeed it is, but it wont always benefit us. I myself am no exception, there are numerous times when I have let others walk all over me, but there are other times when I will stand up vehemently for something. For instance you wont ever see me pressured into drinking or smoking, regardless of the pleas of others, but when it comes to doing something stupid or potentially embarassing, I may be able to be coaxed into doing it. This changes when you realize people will only ask you to do these things because they dont have the balls to do it themselves. in any case when it comes to being nice, it doesnt always work. Some people prey on 'nice guys' and use them because they know that they'll give in. This is seen as a weakness. In the animal world, the strong dominante. It isnt the nice lion that wins the female, its the toughest, strongest, most ruthless lion. Evolution hasnt changed our animal values, and so when it comes to certain things, there is always this side of us which will hold some sway. But I'm rambling here. I know very little about people's relationships and have never had one myself. But if you ask me, a nice guy who comes last with one person will come first with another. Nobody's perfect after all and people vary. I'm intrigued though, by Jonathan's point about freinds who become close and then break up and feel they cant be freinds anymore. I suppose I could understand the awkwardness of such an experience, but its a foolish way of thinking. Why should a good freindship end just because boyfreind/girlfreind experience didnt work? I know from personal experience however, that the closest freindships can easily be broken over trivial matters. Jon seems to know an aweful lot more about this topic than I do. Sometimes a person of what appears to be self-confidence and what is really egocentricity can be attractive simply because of their authoritative manners or demeanor. Nice and sensitive people dont have the same aura around them because they dont exude the kind of false charisma that others do. But, in the end, the aforementioned people become annoying and disapointing once you get beneath the surface and the latter mentioned people are genuinely special and can provide so much more. So in this case I think nice guys dont come last.